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Is there a lion with a ball or head in it's mouth there?

[Norsey]

Apologies if this has already been answered, but the proposed solution on PBworks focuses on a spot NW of McGovern lake - has anyone probed the area Southeast of the obelisk (East / Southeast of the lake)? I'm convinced that some of the paintings help pinpoint the location of the casque by spatial relationships between objects in the painting and the jewel. If you follow that logic for this painting, the casque would be buried southeast of the obelisk and northwest of a bend in the train tracks (min train).

[XeroDM]

Apologies if this has already been answered, but the proposed solution on PBworks focuses on a spot NW of McGovern lake - has anyone probed the area Southeast of the obelisk (East / Southeast of the lake)? I'm convinced that some of the paintings help pinpoint the location of the casque by spatial relationships between objects in the painting and the jewel. If you follow that logic for this painting, the casque would be buried southeast of the obelisk and northwest of a bend in the train tracks (min train).

Have a look at the history of the park and the reflection pool/ obelisk. Historic aerial photos show that this area has been greatly changed. Also, the lake has been massively expanded, trainline realigned and moved, etc.
If you're considering that area and those objects, your best bet is to start with these historic aerials to make sure you're starting from the right reference locations.

[Doghousereiley]

Apologies if this has already been answered, but the proposed solution on PBworks focuses on a spot NW of McGovern lake - has anyone probed the area Southeast of the obelisk (East / Southeast of the lake)? I'm convinced that some of the paintings help pinpoint the location of the casque by spatial relationships between objects in the painting and the jewel. If you follow that logic for this painting, the casque would be buried southeast of the obelisk and northwest of a bend in the train tracks (min train).

Yes. I have probed/dug inside the train loop due east of the lake. It is right near the train station. The train station is in the same spot is was in 1982. the tracks in that area are in basically the same spot as they were Now instead of of taking a hard left due west the train follows the outskirts of the park. I dug up a very large rock about 12 inches down. Most of the trees in the area to the east of the lake were pine trees and most were knocked over in the hurricane in 2003. Most of the area east of the lake is roped off limits the train can pass through but not people. They also planted low palm like tree bushes clustered together with a wood bridge passing over

The area on the wiki has been throughly probed up to 2 ft deep. there is nothing there.

[Guardian]

Apologies if this has already been answered, but the proposed solution on PBworks focuses on a spot NW of McGovern lake - has anyone probed the area Southeast of the obelisk (East / Southeast of the lake)? I'm convinced that some of the paintings help pinpoint the location of the casque by spatial relationships between objects in the painting and the jewel. If you follow that logic for this painting, the casque would be buried southeast of the obelisk and northwest of a bend in the train tracks (min train).

I’ve explored HP several times. There’s no way the wiki is right. Also, the area SE of the obelisk is unchanged, except for lake expansion, and there are a number of indicators that it’s part of the route BP wanted us to take. Unless it’s in that area, Miller’s hill (at Miller Theatre), or the area behind Miller Theatre, it’s probably gone.

[Guardian]

We’ve been applying Verse 1 to this image because of the 982 train and the “Cold as glass” Glassell school. I’ve even said this is the one connection that’s not in doubt. Well, I have doubt. While studying Verse 7, I found a new possibility when I looked up something online. It came up unintentionally and unexpectedly, but it’s a great match for a line in V7. So, is anyone who can help me willing and able to go to the Stella Link area? I live in Spring, so it’s a bit of a drive for me just for that. Email me if you are, and I’ll let you know what I found.

[TexWriter]

I posted this on Mysterious Writings and I will post it here as well.

I went to the Houston Parks and Recreation permit office this morning to discuss the permitting procedure to dig in Hermann Park.
Unfortunately, the lady at the desk that I had a nice visit with, informed me that all digging for The Secret Casque had been banned.
The department is citing the Antiquity Laws of Texas which includes all city parks. Here is the entire quote she gave me printed out:

"Unfortunately according to Antiquities Code and deeds:

- Digging ("breaking ground") for anything like this in a park requires a permit from the State Historical Commission.
- The party breaking ground must be a qualified archeologist approved by the state per code
- Anything actually found beneath the surface is the property of the State of Texas per code
- It would not be considered a project in keeping with the deed restrictions in HP and others"

So, they have basically banned anyone willing to go through permitting procedures and encouraged those people that will sneak in and damage the park.

Penalty if caught:

§ 191.171. CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person violating any
of the provisions of this chapter is guilty of a misdemeanor, and on
conviction shall be punished by a fine of not less than $50 and not
more than $1,000, by confinement in jail for not more than 30 days,
or by both.

I remember reading somewhere of a group in Houston that had developed contacts in the park hq to dig but I can't find it now. If I find them I will give them my theory and they can do what they wish. The location I have may have already been dug by someone. I don't know.

As for me and my house...we are moving on.

TexWriter (TxTH)

[Guardian]

I looked up Texas Antiquities Code hoping to call them out, but the scope includes “treasure buried within the earth”.

In other words, if you bury it with the specific intent of being found by someone in the general public, the Commission will step in and screw whomever figures it out.

Any lawyers here who know a loophole?

[Kang]

I looked up Texas Antiquities Code hoping to call them out, but the scope includes “treasure buried within the earth”...Any lawyers here who know a loophole?

I'm no lawyer. But technically, there is no 'treasure buried within the earth." Only plexiglass and ceramic. Of no great age and with no intrinsic or archaeological value on it's own. That's what's in the ground. Key/casque can only be redeemed for the jewel - and one could argue even that is not assured. Would the key/casque have market value because it's a BP The Secret casque or because it's a piece of art made by Trilling? Who knows. Any lawyers want to weigh in whether or not that's a arguable loophole?

[maltedfalcon]

I looked up Texas Antiquities Code hoping to call them out, but the scope includes “treasure buried within the earth”...Any lawyers here who know a loophole?

I'm no lawyer. But technically, there is no 'treasure buried within the earth." Only plexiglass and ceramic. Of no great age and with no intrinsic or archaeological value on it's own. That's what's in the ground. Key/casque can only be redeemed for the jewel - and one could argue even that is not assured. Would the key/casque have market value because it's a BP The Secret casque or because it's a piece of art made by Trilling? Who knows. Any lawyers want to weigh in whether or not that's a arguable loophole?

I think you are right not intrinsicly valueable, but it would be considered art... and art has been classed as treasure many many times before...
it all depends on the District Attorney, and if there is one thing that will make a DA stick to the rules, its publicity and value or not this will make the news...

[Guardian]

I looked up Texas Antiquities Code hoping to call them out, but the scope includes “treasure buried within the earth”...Any lawyers here who know a loophole?

I'm no lawyer. But technically, there is no 'treasure buried within the earth." Only plexiglass and ceramic. Of no great age and with no intrinsic or archaeological value on it's own. That's what's in the ground. Key/casque can only be redeemed for the jewel - and one could argue even that is not assured. Would the key/casque have market value because it's a BP The Secret casque or because it's a piece of art made by Trilling? Who knows. Any lawyers want to weigh in whether or not that's a arguable loophole?

I think you are right not intrinsicly valueable, but it would be considered art... and art has been classed as treasure many many times before...
it all depends on the District Attorney, and if there is one thing that will make a DA stick to the rules, its publicity and value or not this will make the news...

The Harris County DA is Democrat, and I’m a Party member in standing. I may be able to have some influence. Trust ne, with the crap she’s getting from the Houston PD right now (it has to do with thousands of pieces of evidence that went missing *before* she took office), she needs some good publicity. I’ll contact her tomorrow.

[maltedfalcon]

The Harris County DA is Democrat, and I’m a Party member in standing. I may be able to have some influence. Trust ne, with the crap she’s getting from the Houston PD right now (it has to do with thousands of pieces of evidence that went missing *before* she took office), she needs some good publicity. I’ll contact her tomorrow.

Ummmm Good publicity for a DA would be prosecuting someone who flagrantly ignored city laws and regulations.

[Guardian]

The Harris County DA is Democrat, and I’m a Party member in standing. I may be able to have some influence. Trust ne, with the crap she’s getting from the Houston PD right now (it has to do with thousands of pieces of evidence that went missing *before* she took office), she needs some good publicity. I’ll contact her tomorrow.

Ummmm Good publicity for a DA would be prosecuting someone who flagrantly ignored city laws and regulations.

Anything that upholds the intent of the law is good publicity.

It’s a common mistake to think the prosecution is supposed to convict every defendant. Their job is to get the truth, whether guilty or innocent. Even experienced attorneys don’t understand this. Pointing out that the casque and key aren’t the actual treasure, as you mentioned, could have a number of benefits, including reducing the number of illegal digs in HP.

It’s possible that the target was such as pirate treasure, like all the ones supposedly across Galveston Island. In that case, she can step in. The exact meaning is really all she would need.

[Guardian]

I just sent the email. Let's hope for the best.