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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:49 pm

Please note the following:

http://www.parks.ca.gov/lat_long_map/de ... lvl_id=105

You can not see the 'GH' from Angel Island.
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Re: image 1

Postby ac3100 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:18 pm

Have you not followed the logic to my solution?
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Re: image 1

Postby ac3100 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:32 pm

If you are thinking of going there to dig.  Don't. 

You have to get permission first.  I tried.  The park superintendent informed me a couple months ago that that area is under construction and is totally roped off.

They are actually moving the monument to a new location and reconstructing the immigration station that burnt down decades ago.
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Re: image 1

Postby eljayo » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:20 pm

Things to think:
-Could 'Gh' be there for tell us the image is a mirror? 
There is some things pointing us to SF: 'Gh', Coit tower (with shape as fire hose -> object holding up the table), SF bay, Golden Gate, and more, but this monument seem as pointing us the burial site (a match with lady shape). 

May be is needed more work with verses to complete the idea... 

-In google: define: pole -> a square rod (16,5ft) of land , i,e -> 272 ft2 then, monument is in a pole?

Giant step -> leaping from square border to wall in lady's finger directions?

Just some ideas to share and discuss...

It's time that another casque see the sun's light!!!
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Re: image 1

Postby eljayo » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:21 pm

ac3100 wrote:If you are thinking of going there to dig.  Don't. 

You have to get permission first.  I tried.  The park superintendent informed me a couple months ago that that area is under construction and is totally roped off.

They are actually moving the monument to a new location and reconstructing the immigration station that burnt down decades ago.


bad news!!!  :o
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:19 pm

ac3100 wrote:Have you not followed the logic to my solution?




Yep, I have.  Just do not think that is the location.

Photo of the sign:

http://www.virtuar.com/ysf2/ap-Ghirardelli.htm

A closer view, with something interesting in the foreground
(maybe too recent an addition)

http://www.virtuar.com/ysf2/ap-Ghirardelli.htm

I agree that this figure is a mirror image of the casque site
(where in SF that would be?)

I think that with the orientation of 'Alcatraz', the casque site would
be to the south.

Angel Island may be the mass behind the Alcatraz portion.
(Under the many moons)

I see the China woman standing on a flat shoreline,
a small channel of water, Alcatraz, and then a larger stretch of
water, and another rocky island.

Here is the view from Aquatic Park:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hist ... c_Park.jpg

In your solve, with the Immigration Station, you disregard
the serpent/dragon.
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Re: image 1

Postby Jambone » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:03 pm

Trohn, I'd love to see the pics you provided links for, but I don't think the links are working properly (could be user error on my part) - I just get the main page for the Gh Square Interactive Picture Tour.  Can you get some screen captures of those pics or something?
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:42 pm

I will try and repost the Ghirdelli Squ images....sorry about the tour site.

I have found something previously unmentioned that struck a thought..
On the right hand side, under the pointing finger, is a 'ying/yang' symbol,
the representation of the good/bad struggle of the Zen.

With that.. check out the Golden Gate park...

http://www.inetours.com/Pages/SFNbrhds/ ... arden.html

http://www.inetours.com/Pages/SFLndmrkVws/GGP_Map.html


If we take the woman to represent the Japanese Tea Garden,
then the Rose Table would be the Rose garden to the left
and the Apron would be the map of the Golden Gate Park itself,
which has already been examined.
The arms would represent 'Cross Over Drive'

Wonder if we could then match up a verse....
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:51 pm

Check out the 'So Pavement' of the Tea Garden and
see if it would give one the idea of scales for the dragon....
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:43 pm

And check out what is between the Rose garden and the Tea Garden..

http://www.mistersf.com/high/index.html?highggprose.htm

A sundial.  This view is not exact (but close)
Another side view may be our table leg.

Click on the three locations and check our their prximity
as represented on the top map.
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Re: image 1

Postby ac3100 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:48 pm

Trying Image 1 with verse 7 may be right....or may not be.

A strong argument could be made for verse #6.

There are parts that match up well.

This talks about the cruel treatment of the asian immigrants to angel island. And the things you would experience here.
 
Of all the romance retold
Men of tales and tunes
Cruel and bold
Seen here
By eyes of old

Stand and listen to the birds
Hear the cool, clear song of water

Where law defended

Especially this part because this describes the billboard structure and the palm tree with white buildings and sand in the area
Between two arms extended
Below the bar that binds
Beside the long palm's shadow
Embedded in the sand
Waits the Fair remuneration
White house close at hand.


Parts that I have no idea if there is a match or not.

Harken to the words:
Freedom at the birth of a century
Or May 1913



This has a possible Abraham Lincoln connection as These are the Son and Granddaughter of John Wilkes Booth.  The person who assasinated Abraham Lincoln.

If you look directly above the rose, the rock appears to be a rendition of Abraham Lincoln as if he is lying down looking up.
Edwin and Edwina named after him

Not sure about this line
Or on the eighth a scene
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:33 pm

I have been linking Image 1 with Verse 10...

and how about this start of the connection
to the Japense Tea Garden....

http://terragalleria.com/pictures-subje ... a9336.html

"In the shadow
of the Grey Giant
Find the arm that
Extends over the slender path"
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Re: image 1

Postby Trohn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:32 pm

Here is a link for many sundials....

http://www.sundials.org/registry/dials_al_la.htm

At least four in Golden gate Park..

none look close enough to the table,
esp. not the one in Japanese Tea Garden...

have a look.
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Re: image 1

Postby fox » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:17 am

Nice to see that my C.I.M. has come to the forefront again.  I have always thought that it fit rather nicely with the shape of our lady.  Could we be trying to hard with "a giant step"?  Wouldnt you consider it to be a giant step in your life immigrating to another country?  Just a thought.

Now, just when I starting getting comfortable with the tie ins to Angel Island, Trohn leads me right back to the very logical and much discussed GGP. 

Arrrggh  :D  Would have to agree whole heartedly that this P is most definitely SF....lets look at what we have again.  The "theme" for our P is definitely Chinese, Japanese, Asian of some sort.  The Cleveland P was a greek theme and was found in the Greek Cultural Gardens...which leads me to believe that both Angel Island & the Tea Garden of GGP are very likely hiding a casque.  What do we have that would be definite confirmers that we have not identified yet?

- 11 Moons
- that dang table leg (could the top circular part represent something as well...perhaps a round fountain nearby?)
- the rose...there was discussion long ago that there appeared to be a woman or some figure hidden w/in the petals, can anyone blow it up big enough and clear enough to tell?
- the window.  still think that a barred window will be very nearby the casque for some reason.


Thinking the moons and the table leg will pretty much solidify our site.

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Re: image 1

Postby fox » Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:38 am

Just a quick comment on the moons w/out anywhere to go with it.  The planet Neptune has 11 moons.  There is a Neptune St in SF but it is nowhere near GGP.  Are there any statues of Neptune or anything else that screams Neptune in the area? 

Just more food for thought....

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