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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:54 am

Sign beside cannon...

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Like moonlight in teardrops

OK, so forget the chemistry - this is probably about magnolia.

"Moonlight and magnolia" is a cliche taken from Gone with the Wind...

http://greenespace.blogspot.com/2008/05 ... t-and.html
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... 20magnolia

A teardrop is a type of bouquet. Here's an example of a magnolia one.

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Teardrop bouquet

In terms of paint colours, the sky is magnolia central.

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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:34 am

Cannon research...

The Hadas of Iberia

"The first cannon in Europe were probably used in Iberia, during the Reconquista"

Over the long grass

"Cannon is derived from the Old Italian word cannone, meaning large tube, which came from Latin canna, in turn originating from the kanne - Greek for cane, or reed"

The back of a cannon is the "knob", which also means "round hill".

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This is a star sapphire...

A star sapphire is a type of sapphire that exhibits a star-like phenomenon known as asterism. Star sapphires contain intersecting needle-like inclusions that cause the appearance of a six-rayed "star"-shaped pattern when viewed with a single overhead light source.


...shown on the vent of the cannon ("wind rose"). But there's a blue glimmer behind the wheel which I interpret as the buried gem, just behind this thing.
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Re: Verse 9

Postby cobock1 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:59 am

My wife and I will be making another trip to St. Augustine again. We go at least twice a year (we live close by) and always take our copy of The Secret with us. We even kayaked out to shoreline around the park and got stuck in the mud there. I have considered magnolia street being the tree mentioned in the poem, but I'm not sure if I ever noticed the cannon at the end of it. I certainly never noticed that the shoreline and position of magnolia matched that of the small rock and tree in the water. I only ever noticed that the large rock matched that of the face-like shoreline (like everyone else here). I don't see why he wouldn't have used the same type of clue twice in the same painting. We'll be going to saint augustine for an extended weekend in a month or two. We'll be sure to check out that area, take lots of pics, evaluate everything that we can.

BTW, I have found the image of a cannon in the painting before, but I'm not seeing it right now. I'll have to dig out my notes and get back to you guys on that one.
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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:03 am

that is good news cobock1!  can't wait to see the pictures!  you are like a blast of spring air! good luck!  and check behind ponce de leon down by the shore too, okay?  :app)
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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:49 am

Hey cobock1, excellent news. I recently tried contacting FOY about this. (Just sent you an email on the address in your profile.)

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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:47 am

don't forget the browning poem:

http://www.marcraft.net/blog/?p=1025

Grow old along with me
The best is yet to be

Years pass, rain falls

it's in the picture right after the cannons

or it's just saying "fountain of youth"  at the end of the verse

or maybe it's under the street SIGN "magnolia" at the base of the street

poke around ponce de leon!
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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:39 pm

chris, also......don't forget about this slab, from stercox's album and cw0909's overlay on page 18 of "image 6 and other ramblings"

http://www.quest4treasure.co.uk/forum/i ... ic=759.255

Site of the first fort
San Jan De Pinos
Built by
Pedro Menendez de Aviles
A.D. 1565
Destroyed 21 years later
By sir Francis Drake
1586



"at the base of a tall tree"..............FORT=BASE.............DE PINOS=PINE, PINE TREE
so it would have all of it on that slab
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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:53 pm

cobock!  where's our pictures???? what happened?  did you have fun?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:49 pm

cobock1 wrote:We'll be going to saint augustine for an extended weekend in a month or two.


Patience Slappy... ;)
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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:48 pm

lol, i'm sorry!  k, that gives us more time!

but i also had another idea for that slab..........

"...first fort"---------base
"de pinos"-----------tall tree

and "by sir francis DRAKE".........you can still hear the honking----------drake----male duck


all on that one slab!! are you listening cobock?
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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:47 am

long shot, still the raven bothers me in the picture, from edgar allan poe:

`'Tis some visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door -
Some late visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door; -
This it is, and nothing more,'

one of the entrances?  if so, close to the parking lot (honking)

oh, i didn't know the sundial had a bird on it: (wind rose)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bohemianism/4275781317/

but mostly i like the indian and ponce, they are big enough to hide behind, and the indian has bow and arrows for bending branches, and his belt looks like the pebbles in the image.  for that matter the whole shape of the park looks like an indian to me (in the image):

http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image ... e621212d07

or the planetarium, has the weathervane for "wind"......the go toward magnolia, outside the park
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2Y ... _Augustine

look, famous portrait of sir francis drake with teardrop pearl jewel............
http://www.sapphireandsage.com/necklacesmedallion.html
http://www.karipearls.com/sir-francis-drake-jewel.html
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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:09 pm

Has anything been suggested for Ponce de Leon's check jacket...? Wondering about this wall near the cannon at the bottom of Magnolia Ave.

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(Don't know whether it's been pointed out that he also resembles the character on the front of "The Lost Colony" by Paul Green, as performed at Roanoke's Waterside Theatre.)

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Re: Verse 9

Postby slappybuns » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:49 pm

i think trohn brought that up before about him being dressed like sir walter raleighs brother, and some one else mentioned the helmet wasn't like the conquistadors but more italian........seems like all the images could relate to any of the others somehow (i'm still confusing myself because of it, just today was thinking about the music notes in the dutch image could go with our verse ten, rhapsodic, bliss, harmony, ecstasy, because i like the dutch for new york :)  )

but i don't recall anyone mentioning his checkered clothes..........i like those checks at the gate!

the only spanish fair folk i think is the mira chimera on p. 128.......last lines says "but her dedicated followers sometimes glimpse her still, reflected, if only for a moment, in the smoked windows of a passing limo..."
and the picture on p. 128 says....."how do i look from the back?"
here's one of those anomalies(?)..."she was said to be lost forever with the passing of long white gloves"...."Lost" could go with the lost colony and "long white gloves", english?  or wedding? and then mentions "when bernice bobbed her hair ( a story about a young girl from wisconsin!--on how to be more attractive (which does fit fountain of youth), i guess the white gloves could go with the limo service?

but bernice also has a mythological basis on the constellation Coma Berenices which would lead to the planetarium! so there we go  :), from behind the wall at the planetarium
she was mourned when the movies learned to talk-----------------movie stars!
reflected----------"staring back at you"
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Re: Verse 9

Postby WhiteRabbit » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:04 pm

Here's a fair-folk reference for you.

"Perhaps the metal-clashing landfall of the Conquistadores took them by surprise, and they fled without taking time to disenchant their Fountain of Youth."

Enchant...Entrance...?

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Re: Verse 9

Postby cobock1 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:41 am

I like your connection of that wall to something in the image. That's what this one needs more of. The ones that have been found so far both had some imagery from the area depicted in some way in the painting. That way one would have more than a vague idea of where to dig once they found the place.

That wall is neat. I have stayed at that motel at least a dozen times  (and walked those ground thoroughly) and I've never made the connection between that wall and the conquistador's tunic. Bravo. That could be a pretty legitimate marker.
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