Verse 9

[bigmattyh]

Yes -- Seloy is obscure.  But like the other words from the verse, it's also written on signs in the FOY park.  BP didn't expect anyone to know Seloy -- but if they saw it in the park, and recognized it from the verse, they'd know they were in the right spot.  The acrostic doesn't have to run the full length of the verse for it to be a deliberate confirmer.

Incidentally, I like at least one of your ideas a lot, actually -- the Boston/optometry one.  It's a very close match to the image, and it ties in, in a clever (but clear) way to points in the verse.

On this one, I think your process is favoring obscurity over simplicity, way beyond what I believe BP intended here.  Obviously I'm not the arbiter of that.  But if there's any chance of digging up another casque, the FOY is the best possible shot that exists right now, and efforts would be better spent towards finding where, exactly, it is buried on that site.

[erexere]

Thanks for the nod, I think you meant the Church of Scientology building's panel, yes, it's next to the Optometrist College.  Someone really needs to get their shovels into Boston, I bet there's a good chance that casque will surface.

As for obscurity over simplicity...I can't argue with that.  It's a complicated thing just to tell you what I think is simple...Preiss' challenge hasn't really given us the simple option, otherwise this conversation wouldn't be happening 30 years late.

[four21thrasher]

if the planetarium is "stars move by day," has this ship been mentioned as "sails pass by night"?


sorry if it has... i read through the last several pages of posts, and it seemed there was either no clue or it was a mural in the entrance.

[WhiteRabbit]

From Stercox...

"Inside the planetarium the display is set up like the deck of a ship--so that you get the effect of being on a ship looking past the mast into the night sky during the program."

See photos here...

http://family.webshots.com/photo/270752 ... 0493cCXwXM

Hadn't noticed the weather vane before, but yeah, ships aplenty in the planetarium...

[four21thrasher]

Those pictures and explanation are spot on... thanks for pointing me to the info 

[erexere]

Years pass, rain falls

421, I rather like the "reign false" interpretation.  "Reign" pertains to the rule of a Monarch and "false flag" pertains to flying a flag of a country not of your own.

As a result of the negotiations, both sides agreed to retain joint military occupation of the island until a final settlement could be reached, reducing their presence to a token force of no more than 100 men.[5] The "British Camp" was established on the north end of San Juan Island along the shoreline, for ease of supply and access; and the "American Camp" was created on the south end on a high, windswept meadow, suitable for artillery barrages against shipping.[7] Today the Union Jack still flies above the "British Camp", being raised and lowered daily by park rangers, making it one of the very few places without diplomatic status where US government employees regularly hoist the flag of another country.

The line about tall grass might fit here.

[erexere]

Found a large boulder with a copper plaque that's all blue and green and written upon it is "...CHAPTER / DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION".  Could the blue and green color be a reference to water, or is it more the geology of the stone being a glacial erratic, a stone that has been moved or carried to a location by glacial flow.  Ice = water right?









Here's a fascinating find:  I've previously matched the proportions of the image in height and where the water line/surf matches the base of the monument stone.  That this was moved from the Redoubt site to another area is something to consider.



Amazing!  I can't stop thinking about this connection as to why the white gowned woman is floating vs what a rock carried by a glacier does.  How does a rock "fly" to the top of a hill?  This glacier thing fits every angle I look at it.  Gown as white with blue base edge matches the typical description of a glacier "white ice floating in cold blue water".

[erexere]

Okay, i never heard of this organization before, it sounded like a cruel MS joke at first, this link confirms the first chapter was in Washington State.

http://www.dar.org/natsociety/archives_founders.cfm

[fox]

Point taken...let me try a different approach.

Cleveland
Chicago
Milwaukee
New Orleans
Boston
Corbett

One of these things is not like the others...........

[maltedfalcon]

lol

[erexere]

I've been reading some interesting history about Andrew Jackson and Jean Lafitte.  It was interesting that Lafitte helps fight against the British in New Orleans but also becomes a spy and pirate.  It's a colorful history.  The wikipedia article mentions how many folks assumed Lord Byron's poem "The Corsair" was based on Lafitte.  It's just a pet theory of mine that Byron Priess drew inspiration based on Lord Byron, but I'll need to work at that idea much much more.  Perhaps someone else around here has had a similar idea.  A flat out NO might suffice, but any citations or proof to the contrary is always welcome.

Another interesting note: William Selby Harney's first military accomplishment was forcing Jean Lafitte out of the Louisiana Territory and onto the Spanish Main.  I don't know if that's significant or not, but it's difficult to ignore or consider insignificant.  Wasn't or Andrew Jackson or Jean Lafitte mentioned in the thread about the New Orleans casque?  --please consider this as side research into a possible connecting thread between casques.

[four21thrasher]

I have run across so many tangential relations between each of my theories, I have just begun to chalk it up to the six degrees of separation. When referring to historical stuff, especially historic people, it seems to be much more like one or two degrees since the population/world was much smaller.

[erexere]

That really is a powerful architecture.  I can visualize Occam as a little boy sledding down that hill...yeah, I see what you mean.

[erexere]

Stand back every once and a while and look at picture as a whole

OK, I've been taking your advice and trying to spot any significance in the overall image. It's a horse on a hill.

Pretty sure "written in water" is just a reference to the FOY

I agree it fits FOY perfectly, water and all. But it's a curious phrase, and its resemblance to Keats' epitaph warrants a closer look.

I was remembering another of Keats' most famous poems, "Ode to a Nightingale", thought to have been written at a historic pub called Spaniards Inn. It refers to the Hippocrene, a fountain struck open by Pegasus on Mount Helicon. (The name means "horse's fountain".)

I had considered the hydrant for the rain/water reference...Its definitely one of the only obviously unusual shapes in the painting.

...if it is the hydrant, it's both prominent and neatly disguised, and ties in with the overall fountain theme.

Mind you don't hit a main.  ;)

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Spare focus from FOY for a moment and consider the meaning of "wind rose" in connection to the Keats-centric view.  Ode to a Nightengale.  Gale = wind.  Rose = flower = Florence.  

Florence Nightengale's rose is a reference to a statistical pie chart.  The wind rose is associated with meteorological use.  The lady of the lamp is associated with nursing, but also with the role of women in the time of war, which is the central premise to the founding of the Daughter's of the American Revolution.  The "first chapter" of DAR was founded in the state of Washington.

Shouldn't we focus on WA and something associated with meteorology?  Rain falls...

http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?Di ... le_Id=7704 perhaps?

Maybe the woman in the white dress in image 12 is a "white whale"?

[erexere]

I think this is our iconic image in image 12:



The path will take us to the area near the "green" picket fence, where "green" is being used to connote "army".