The methodology discussion

[erexere]

Very likely the case if I neglected to utilize concrete examples in the context of the hunt.  Citing Keats or Melville in attempt to cross reference something as a possibility is called research.  I had the curiosity to consider Keats Ode to a Nightengale because Byron used words that are atributed to Keats epitaph.  I only considered BSG because Starbuck is a signigicant figure in Melville's work.  That reminds me, the Indominatable from Billy Budd reminds me of one of the lines in verse 6.  I'd like to discuss that later.

Your ability to casually dismiss material is annoying and passive-agressive in a friendly forum.  Seriously, how often do people only express either like or dislike without acknowledging a substantiated reason?  Isnt that annoying?  I've made my point about checking facts and submitting a stronger candidate for consideration as an alternative to simply stating your opinion.  Shecrab calls that approach BS.  *shrug*  I think you should be open minded and critical as much as you can be as long as you can back it up with support.

[erexere]

Why do I have the feeling Byron asked John to put that hint in the interview?

Well thats easy to answer, Because you are incredbily susceptible to pareidolia.

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All you're really saying is that you dont agree.  All im saying is, what if thats the case, what could it mean, does that lead to anything useful?  Im working to bring cohesion to a scheme of yet-to-be-connected pieces.  If something is purely random, then Im sure to fail connecting it to something substantial, but instead I've succeded in raising some questions while you've made yourself look foolish for labeling me with negative connotations.

Maltedfalcon, youve received appreciation and understanding from me.  I encourage you to stick to your methods.  You have a sound approach.  I know it was right for Chicago and Cleveland, but I question if the method will work for all the casques.  Keep working on finding those concrete pieces.  Meanwhile, please lay off the pointless banter.  You're better than that.  I'm still shocked that you wont even consider a snow-capped mountain peak as a symbol for the color white, but i understand if you fully expect there to be a little white rock to fit with verse 5.

Suffice it to say everyone here, including yourself, has posted a creative idea as a solution one time or another.  If you've chosen to narrow or rigidify your process, i understand it has the benefit of bbeing simple and direct, but don't loose your negativity on others in the forum just because they embrace an alternative approach.  Think about how that affects others.  

Shecrab, Bigmatty, I hope you can appreciate that I'm not upset and I'm trying to be constructive.  Lets get to the facts.  Has Byron created a puzzle that encourages a creative approach and a need to understand historical and thematic materials?  I think so, and I'm doing my best to form my ideas accordingly.  I'd expect you all to know the difference between the case of a single random piece of information and the instance of multiple (more than one) pieces fitting into an idea (some folks call that a pattern).

On a light hearted note:  there are more ways to look at a glass of water than you might think.  Sometimes the glass is half empty, sometimes its half full, sometimes you're suspicious of the water (is it safe to drink?), and sometimes you might be affraid of leaving your fingerprints (which might mean you're guilty...lol).  Come on folks, be a little more kind and thoughtful.

[bigmattyh]

Why do I have the feeling Byron asked John to put that hint in the interview?

Well thats easy to answer, Because you are incredbily susceptible to pareidolia.

Excellent word!

[erexere]

Why do I have the feeling Byron asked John to put that hint in the interview?

Well thats easy to answer, Because you are incredbily susceptible to pareidolia.

Excellent word!

Was it possible that BP and JJP spoke to eachother at some point about dropping a hint or two?  Does it seem legit that JJP would've fogotten the significance of the centaurs helmet, given that he came up with the idea for the spot in Cleveland and hes the one who drew the picture?  Why would he even bring it up?  If he intended to deliver a hint, wouldn't the news article be an opportunity to do so?

Lets apply some critical thinking to this image,

Maltedfalcon, can you explain why you think this parking lot looks like the woman's head and how its justified to use a rotated image?

[forest_blight]

erexere -- I think it's worth pointing out that the arch in P4 is a direct link to the Cleveland site:

http://www.quest4treasure.co.uk/images/ ... untain.jpg

[erexere]

Thank you!  I wish I caught that before.  I was really pulling muscles to understand how it might be more than that. That top of the arch feature with the inset gem was cropped out of the image in the Plain Dealer.

The columns, arch, wall, fountain, engraved names, overall rectangular shape of area, cultural origins and roadways wraps up every major detail to which connects the dots to the Cleveland casque.  This has noted or hashed out again and again probably already, but just to be sure of some objective criteria where a reason for each image or verse component will connect to an absolute location, street name, or landmark:

1. Use of a tall widely visable city feature to initialize a roadway as a starting path.
2. Conveyance of any connecting roads to main site.
3. Identifying the path within the main site.
4. Use final details to reveal the precise location.

I believe any combination of words or image can convey any part or portion of each of these four components.  There are many traditional games that have similar goals.  Pictionary, charades, Trivial Pursuit...and even Scrabble, if my hunch is right about Selby.

[maltedfalcon]

Maltedfalcon, can you explain why you think this parking lot looks like the woman's head and how its justified to use a rotated image?

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I arbitrarily cut the image along an imaginary non-existent line. and then based on the magnetic lay lines located in Haight Ashbury, home of the flower child movement, I aligned the image with the non-magnetic north (taking into account the right descension of the sun, because after all Lincoln park is 20 blocks west of haight ashbury. And because it wouldnt fit if I left it straight.

[four21thrasher]

Maltedfalcon, can you explain why you think this parking lot looks like the woman's head and how its justified to use a rotated image?

sure
I arbitrarily cut the image along an imaginary non-existent line. and then based on the magnetic lay lines located in Haight Ashbury, home of the flower child movement, I aligned the image with the non-magnetic north (taking into account the right descension of the sun, because after all Lincoln park is 20 blocks west of haight ashbury. And because it wouldnt fit if I left it straight.

Confirmed. +1

[erexere]

"I, Themistocles, am come to you, who did your house more harm than any of the Hellenes, when I was compelled to defend myself against your father's invasion - harm, however, far surpassed by the good that I did him during his retreat, which brought no danger for me but much for him." (Thucydides)

Generals.  Thucydides was all about reporting on the activities of military leaders.  Most all of my interpretations have inadvertently led to places that have some link or significance to a military place or person.  Perhaps that observation doesn't narrow anything down but maybe there is something to do with the cultural context.

[erexere]

This seems coincidental.  Last page of Abroad in America (1976) has this picture,



Which is so similar to the plaque I found on Sam Hill on the Corbett boulder, the H.G. Wells medalian has the same kind of writing though its hard to see the details in my photo.

[maltedfalcon]

This seems coincidental.

Meaning superfluous and not important?
or This seems "not" coincidental, meaning likely important?

[erexere]

Oh sorry, and thanks for helping me realise my misuse of the term.

It's unclear to me.  What I'm wondering is how common are these kinds of "coin" type plaques?  I've only noticed these two so far.  I'd like to look into it, thats all.

[WhiteRabbit]

From my experience of other hunts, when you start picking out connections between disparate things in the real world, it's a sign that your pattern-matching faculties are in overdrive.

[erexere]

From my experience of other hunts, when you start picking out connections between disparate things in the real world, it's a sign that your pattern-matching faculties are in overdrive.

I believe you are correct, sir.

[erexere]

Here's a simplifying idea:  considering how the Chicago and Cleveland solves turned out, there is a central element in each of the images that might be seen as a "close" indicator for what is nearest the treasure ground.

I have good reason to believe that these circled points in the other images do this as well.  I think Preiss stood somewhere west of the Miller Outdoor Theater and snapped a photo.  This does work into my utilization of the Golden Spiral.