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Postby cw0909 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:27 am

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if in prospect park hopefully its not where the new pk lot is going
http://www.prospectpark.org/lakeside

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Re: image 12

Postby wk » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:52 pm

It is Prospect Park. I tried fitting the outline of the park over the shadows on the body and it matches the clothes.
Turn the map of the park so that the Grand Avenue Plaza is at the bottom right or turn the image on its side like this.


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Re: image 12

Postby Deuce » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:14 pm

I like it wk. Concert Grove might be our place.

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Re: image 12

Postby wk » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:23 pm

...and the long sash hanging from her waist is the part of the park called Long Meadow.
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Re: image 12

Postby Deuce » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:55 am

There's an East Dr. that goes through the park starting near the entrance. Maybe used for our "east" steps?
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Re: image 12

Postby cw0909 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:15 am

Deuce wrote:There's an East Dr. that goes through the park starting near the entrance. Maybe used for our "east" steps?


was just going to ask where to start,as we can Gman walk park, i wondered from CG and
ended up under bridge LOL
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Re: image 12

Postby Deuce » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:55 pm

?? Is the darker shadow Prospect Park Lake ??


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Re: image 12

Postby wk » Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:10 am

Yes , I agree the lake does match. I was using the drawn map -  yours is better. I had to turn it 15 degrees and stretch it slightly but it is now quite convincing proof.

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Re: image 12

Postby Deuce » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:05 pm

wk wrote:Back to verse 10 now?


Absolutely. Trying to work out "him of Hard word".
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Re: image 12

Postby wk » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:41 pm

Another confirmer for Prospect Park. This yellow dotted line follows the light contrast on the dress and indicates a direction from the west entrance to the Lookout Hill.

The more I look at this image, the more I am impressed that the artist achieved the task of depicting a map of the park as a work of art.

Do you think he knew about this hill?

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Re: image 12

Postby maltedfalcon » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:06 am

Merlot Brougham wrote:Personally, it will be difficult to sway me from the Ferry Building on Ellis Island as the match for the Image 12 bird, particularly when you put it together with the context of the other clues in the image


The immigration station on Ellis island was closed in 1954 The museum on Ellis island was not open to the public until 1990. Does that mean the island was off-limits to the public from 1954-1990?  The south side of the island is currently off-limits.

In 1970-81 could you even get to ellis island?
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Re: image 12

Postby four21thrasher » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:18 am

maltedfalcon wrote:
Merlot Brougham wrote:Personally, it will be difficult to sway me from the Ferry Building on Ellis Island as the match for the Image 12 bird, particularly when you put it together with the context of the other clues in the image


The immigration station on Ellis island was closed in 1954 The museum on Ellis island was not open to the public until 1990. Does that mean the island was off-limits to the public from 1954-1990?   The south side of the island is currently off-limits.

In 1970-81 could you even get to ellis island?


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Re: image 12

Postby erexere » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:40 am

I found no photos from my trip there in the spring of 83, but I remember being there and having lots of restrictions.  It was closed with scaffolds the summer of 86 when I took the Staten Island Ferry close enough to take some pics from around the bay.

I think the fact that the bird is so similar to the Ellis bird is a huge step forward.  The natural inclination would be to think the casque is very close to where that detailed visual is found, but everything about burying something on Ellis seems wrong, which poses a new question: why use THOSE eagles?

I suspect there's an intrinsic connection to be found that has to do with the whole process of being a tourist, buying a ferry ticket, and visiting a historic monument.  The Ellis Island Ferry may have been Preiss' closest to home template to build that particular portion of his visual puzzle for the purpose of inference.
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Re: image 12

Postby cw0909 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:50 am

i always thought the National Park Service, operated liberty and ellis
found this, now NPS works with The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation (SOLEIF)

In 1982, President Ronald Reagan asked Lee Iacocca,to head a private sector effort to raise funds for the
restoration and preservation of the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island
July 4th weekend, 1986, saw a gala three-day event celebrating the restoration.
When the Island opened in September of 1990--two years ahead of schedule
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Re: image 12

Postby bigmattyh » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:10 pm

erexere wrote:I think the fact that the bird is so similar to the Ellis bird is a huge step forward.  The natural inclination would be to think the casque is very close to where that detailed visual is found, but everything about burying something on Ellis seems wrong, which poses a new question: why use THOSE eagles?

I suspect there's an intrinsic connection to be found that has to do with the whole process of being a tourist, buying a ferry ticket, and visiting a historic monument.  The Ellis Island Ferry may have been Preiss' closest to home template to build that particular portion of his visual puzzle for the purpose of inference.


Holy… crap. I agree with everything you just said.

The eagle is definitely a match. It's possible that it's meant just to be a marker for NYC, which I think is okay in this case, since the book is so heavily themed with immigration.
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