Verse 9

[erexere]

WR, I see what and why you make those visual comparisons but it makes me even less convinced of FOY.

I like the hydrant as an idea but more as a verse rather than image reference.  Do we have any examples of where verse and image both refer to the same specific marker?

[four21thrasher]

@WR

That palm comparison is interesting... I notice in the image the palm has no reflection (unlike the rock)... You'd think something should be there

[WhiteRabbit]

Cheers...yeah, I was pleased to be able to get a palm into the Magnolia theory...



That circular loop of cord in the corner of the flag always caught my attention.

[four21thrasher]

I have thought about that ring a lot, but haven't a clue.

As for the hydrant, since its introduction I always like to look at it like...

[erexere]

Please see this as an alternative and not meant to be as a refutation to anything FOY related.

I really like the material for FOY, because it has perfectly acceptable qualities of matching a pattern in image and having a reasonable explanation based on the verse.

I'm am offering nothing new here, but I repackaged some recent selections to marvel at the simplicity of this alternative, given an image 6 and verse 5 pairing.  Location: Portland Women's Forum, Corbett, Oregon on Highway 2 Exit 22 in a region (Oregon Territory) first governed by Joseph Lane, first a bird's eye view compared to Ponce's pennant flag with a close up perspective of the boulder in the middle of the ring of stones as compared to Ponce's hilltop.

[WhiteRabbit]

*censored*

[four21thrasher]

Please see this as an alternative and not meant to be as a refutation to anything FOY related.

I've followed and will continue to consider all your ideas erexere. I think a lot of your stuff is great and I was happy when you started posting. One of my favorite parts of this hunt is the amount of historical stuff I always end up reading/researching... amazing things I would have never known about. Different theories give me reason to search more

With this image, however, I just can't get past the silhouette of Florida. I can see myself taking seriously an alternate location in the state of Florida, but anything else would be hard pressed to get my attention. Saying this image represents Oregon is like saying Image 4 represents California to me.

[WhiteRabbit]

I think a lot of your stuff is great and I was happy when you started posting. One of my favorite parts of this hunt is the amount of historical stuff I always end up reading/researching... amazing things I would have never known about. Different theories give me reason to search more

...yeah, just kidding erexere...

[erexere]

It's cool.  I can appreciate a little guff now and again, but this isn't what's important.  We have a lot of mediums to work with and a lot of preconceptions driving our ideas.  The willpower alone to work through these puzzles with slim to no prospects of recovery is phenomenal.  Keep up the good work.  Hope to see more folks return to this hunt and fill the gap before the earth finishes digesting those casques.

This presents a question to whether verse 9 supports a pairing with image 6 or image 12.

The first chapter
Written in water
Near men
With wind rose
Behind bending branches
And a green picket fence
At the base of a tall tree
You can still hear the honking
Shell, limestone, silver, salt
Stars move by day
Sails pass by night
Even in darkness
Like moonlight in teardrops
Over the tall grass
Years pass, rain falls.

[considered STRONG evidence based on image 6 and a partial acrostic "...SELOY", an indian tribe that interacted with Ponce deLeon to mean somewhere in St. Augustine Fountain of Youth area.]


The first chapter
Over the tall grass

Near men
With wind rose

Written in water
At the base of a tall tree

Stars move by day
And a green picket fence
You can still hear the honking
Shell, limestone, silver, salt

Sails pass by night
Even in darkness
Like moonlight in teardrops
Behind bending branches
Years pass, rain falls.

[my position based on image 12 and a complete acrostic matching the military orders General William Selby Harney gave General George Pickett to occupy San Juan Island]

I marvel at a reading of 'Written in water' to mean a "story of sadness" as it might refer to the mourning of George Pickett for losing his wife and unborn child just before Selby gave him the instructions and the irony in his next marriage to a young indian woman named Morning Mist (homonym: mourning = morning).  More importantly there are some drops suspended in air,



Definition: MIST
Verb:  Cover or become covered with mist.
Noun:  A cloud of tiny water droplets suspended in the atmosphere at or near the earth's surface.

[four21thrasher]

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[fox]

Last time I checked, Corbett OR is not a port city and has nothing to do with immigration.  Heck, it isnt even a well known city like both Chicago & Cleveland (found casques) as well as all of the other potential casque cities.  It just doesnt fit. 

[WhiteRabbit]

From FOY this morning: "Entirely possible on the quiet street. Interestingly, the wall curves hard to the right just behind the hydrant. I think I need to dig...."

Fingers crossed.

[erexere]

Last time I checked, Corbett OR is not a port city and has nothing to do with immigration.  Heck, it isnt even a well known city like both Chicago & Cleveland (found casques) as well as all of the other potential casque cities.  It just doesnt fit.  

Ummm...Portland IS a port city.  I lived there, watched Navy battleships come in every year.  Corbett is just minutes away from the Portland Airport.  The Columbia River is the first and primary reason for US expansion and trade in the early frontier movement west since Captain Robert Gray and Lewis and Clark.  Come on people.

I think its necessary to have a quad-espresso right now...okay half done...needs sugar....ahhh thats just right.  Ok, I'm not looking for the goldilocks treatment here...just a little frustrated when encountering objections that dont have any weight.  I realize that Corbett specifically isnt on the world list of ports.  It is basically a hill with ports down below on either side extending farther east to Umatilla and Walla Walla and the Snake River and Portland to the west.

Good try Fox, but if it has to be said, I think for fit sake, I only pinpointed the location based on Lane and 2 and 22.  I never had to force any of my solution because it fit in a shocking way and Image 6 was the clear winner.  I had no preconceptions based on anyones research here before I started.  My approach as a poetry contest organizer led me to look more objectively at the verse and its use of figurative and literal word choice.

[bigmattyh]

SELOY: The name of the village the FOY park sits on.  Other uncommon words from the verse are written, plainly, on signs in the park.  Also, the Fountain of Youth is a direct tie-in to the overall theme of The Secret -- the settling of the New World.

SELBY: The name of an obscure, unnotable figure from an unnotable event in American history, which, requires reordering the verses and yet another layer of interpreting an anagram to get there.

I'd want there to be a casque buried in my backyard, too, but this isn't it.

[erexere]

I hesitate to think Seloy isnt the least bit obscure.  Is it really necessary to defend that level of opinion?  I'm not about to argue history or its absolute relevance.  Selby existed, and holds much significance as many others who are important to this country's history. 

I cant claim to care about whas in my backyard.

You are being rude by any standards.

The comparative argument of selecting a reordered or anagramed vs ignoring two thirds of the acrostic is intelligent but to rule one over the other without better consideration isnt very smart.