image 12

[johann]

Then again, with the 74 (perhaps longitude) in the water, maybe this is the obvious (New York or nearby).

[KROMAGNUM]

here is an email from BP to FRSTPRZFA which she forwarded to me concerning a possible casque location in Central Park.
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From:
To:
Subject: Re: Sorry to bother you.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:08 PM

there is no treasure in central park
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drats, there goes my ideas....looks like we need to turn to other parts/parks of NYC

I don't believe that this is all that correct.
I think Central Park is the starting point in located the jewel.
http://www.centralpark2000.com/database/bethesda_fountain.html
Bethesda Terrace; Bethesda Fountain: C72
The Angel Of The Waters
[Unveiled 1873]
Sculpted: 1868
Sculptor: Emma Stebbins 1815-1882 • USA
Gift of New York City
Following is more quoted from the above page:
" this neoclassical
winged female figure symbolizes and
celebrates the purifying of the city’s
water supply when the Croton Aqueduct
opened in 1842 bringing fresh water to
all New Yorkers.[i] For this reason she
carries a lily, the symbol of purity in one
hand while her other hand extends
outward as she blesses the water below.
The stimulus for the idea of the
"Angel of the Waters" comes from the
Gospel of Saint John, Chapter 5, the
story of an angel bestowing healing
powers on the pool of Bethesda in
Jerusalem. Beneath the eight-foot
gilded bronze statue are four smaller
four-foot figures symbolizing Temperance,
Purity, Health, and Peace. The base of
the fountain was designed by Calvert Vaux
with detail work by Jacob Wrey Mould."[/i]

Is it just me? Doesn't this have a striking similarity to Image 12?
I underlined in bold above which gives me a strong impression about Image 12.
It may not be buried in Central Park (or not?), but this leads me to believe that this may be the starting point.

Then again.....
In looking at Image 11...
The portal that is centered in that Image looks a 99% dead ringer for the circle path around that fountain.
Image 11 could well be a NYC location. No?
Study the Bethesda Terrace and the portal in Image 11. Striking resemblance.
http://www.wirednewyork.com/parks/centr ... thesda.jpg
Notice the outlines in the terrace and the outlines with the portal (what I call it) in Image 11.

Map of Central Park and the adjacent streets and some of the landmarks here:
http://www.centralpark.org/locator/cpcl ... /cpl1.html

I would need to find a little more solid evidence in Image 11 for trully believe it is indeed NYC.

I don't think that portal in Image 11 is necessarily a window portal. To me it appears more like a foot path around a fountain or statue.

[maltedfalcon]

For the longest time I was sure the ring window was an indicator of San Francisco.
because of this statue in Golden Gate Park's japanese tea garden.
http://www.lwn-photo.com/images/Snglimgs/JTG/Buddha.jpg
I have since given up that idea----

[forest_blight]

I noticed two strange features of Image 12 that I don't think have been mentioned before. Both are continuity "errors," illustrated here:



First, the edge of the window does not continue between the wings like it ought to.
Second, if you draw a line straight up the middle, the blue pebbled pane protrudes too far to the left at its top.

[boogieman]

Check this out.  Step back from the screen and you'll see it.  It's either the # 51 or letters SI

[maltedfalcon]

I see a 15 pretty clearly--
but and I hesitate to say this becuase Im one of the ones that think this is actually Washington State.
but doesnt the one in her right armpit look sort of Empire State Buildingish?

[fox]

wow...cant believe that wasnt mentioned yet.  sure looks like Empire State Building to me......just like the 2 found casques with bldg outlines.

http://members.aol.com/nycskyscrp/mid/3505th2.jpg

still convinced this P has to be NYNY

or would this be closer?

http://www.howardmodels.com/Architectur ... r/pic1.jpg

[hollidaze3]

hi everyone...my name is holli...and i just heard about this one and decided to give it a go...i see alot of familiar names from tweleve here...hope to be of help to you all...

[fox]

Hey there holligirl....welcome to The Secret.  Cant wait to hear some of your thoughts on this one since you seemed to have a good grasp on ATT.  Spoken for the masses over at Tweleve who have been toiling away with A Treasures Trove....Holli is a great addition to The Secret team.

Nuff of the accolades....time to get cracking holli      The treasures are no where near the value of ATT but to say you had a hand in cracking one of these 20+ year old puzzles in treasure enuff.  Again.....WELCOME !

[Kato]

A possible solution to the latitude problem in image 12 can be hypothesized as follows:  The "74" in the water below the figure may be indicating the longitude of New York City, but the degree of latitude( number) within the image has thus far been elusive.  The longitude of New York City is 74.006W, and the latitude is 40.714N.  No discernable "40" or "41" has been observed within the image.
www.ny.com/histfacts/geography.html

I believe the solution to the latitude problem can be found in the square clock to the left of the figure's head.

If you add the Roman Numerals (12+3+6+9=30) and then add the time on the clock (11:00) or 11, the sum is "41", or the equivalent latitude of New York City.  If my hypothesis is correct, then this would establish an irrefutable link between image 12 and New York City.

What a fiendishly clever way to hide the latitude number in plain sight!  Byron Preiss was a genius!

My other thought on this subject is that the clock in the square is a rebus for "Times Square"

[hollidaze3]

fox..thanks!  getting the love over here already..hehehe...btw..i already have an idea about san francisco...who is there that could check out something for me...ive not yet received the book...but have the verses and the images to go from...is there more that i am missing?

or do i shout it outloud and hope someone would share it in the event that im right?  lol...let me know the way of things here please...thanks

holli

[boogieman]

http://www.brooklyn.com/map.php?nbhd=57

Nothing new here, but look at the link above and compare it to verse 10.  You cantraverse all over NY and beyond with this sattillite image.        Boog

[forest_blight]

I sent a message to an expert in American Islamic architecture about the minarets in the window panel. He wrote back within hours stating, "The picture is of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan, inaugurated in May 2005." Of course it isn't, but I do think this is a good strategy. Perhaps we should identify people more familiar with NYC mosques and ask them if they recognize it. At least one should recognize this structure, surely!

[forest_blight]

If the negative space were important, it would be highly coincidental that the remaining area strongly resembles a Kremlin-like building. There must be thousands (hundreds?) of buildings in the country with cupolas / minarets like these. I'm also going on JJP's habit of inserting actual buildings into his paintings, for example the Cleveland and Chicago finds, and the building identified as standing in Milwaukee. I think this panel may be the key to Image 12.

[fox]

with FB here.  this seems to be an orthodox church to me.  Thinking we have probably already located said church (ie... http://www.lisawhiteman.com/pictures/ny ... bsnow2.jpg ) but we just dont have the right perspective.

think back to the Milwaukee bldg.  People thought..yeah, that looks kind of like it but what about..?  Then a pic was found online from the exact same perspective and viola....EXACT match.