Verse 9

[shecrab]

I had a thought about your orientation and casque dig site.

I am thinking that the palm/rock in the lower right is probably a marker of some sort. I liked the idea that the small marker was the same shape as the rock , and that there was a tree in the pic too...but something about the exposed area of that small marker didn't feel right to me.

But what about this: maybe the 'rock' in the image is a 'negative' space rather than a solid object? I mean, what if there is a space roughly that shape and orientation near a palm tree?  It's not possible to tell from the pictures--they may or may not have the correct orientation. But I went over the Chicago and Cleveland solves again, and I noticed that he took a lot of liberties with space--the Ohio and Terminal tower clues in the Cleveland picture are 'negative' spaces--not solid. There is a 'florida-shaped' negative space on the right side of the P6--could that also be 'park-shaped' or could there be another negative space somewhere in the image that might help pinpoint the casque?

ck

[2fast4u2c]

This may have been mentioned before, but I haven't saw it so...

If you look at the reflection of the rock in the water, it is doesn't appear to be a mirror image.  It is close, but if you trace it you will see that there are differences.  Perhaps we are looking for something that is in the combined shape of the rock and its reflection.  Or perhaps we find the perspective that gives you the reflection and that is the perspective used to find where to dig.

I think the rock is the key and is the only thing keeping this casque from being found.

[stercox]

could there be another negative space somewhere in the image that might help pinpoint the casque?

Nice idea.   Thanks, SC.  I will have to give that some thought...

[stercox]

Perhaps we are looking for something that is in the combined shape of the rock and its reflection.  Or perhaps we find the perspective that gives you the reflection and that is the perspective used to find where to dig.

I think the rock is the key and is the only thing keeping this casque from being found.

Also a nice thought.  Sawdusty has always thought that it looked like the Lion's Bridge off in the distance from the coastline.  I have thought about finding the perspective to get a similar reflection, that when aligned right would give you the tree you are looking for.  But I haven't found that yet.  I did think that the water could represent a fountain's water base with the rock representing the centerpiece for the fountain and a tree behind it.  But the rock never matched up to anything.  I will consider this again, maybe put a twist on it like you mentioned about the combined rock and reflection and see if we can find such a beast.  Thanks 2fast.

[shecrab]

Actually, if you turn the page 90 degrees to the left, the rock and its reflection look a little like the actual shape of the casque to me.

It also looks like a hat--or crown.

ck

[forest_blight]

Is there any chance we could obtain a transcript of the narrative that accompanies the Planetarium show? Clearly BP paid admission and watched it, drawing inspiration for a couple of lines. Maybe we could draw inspiration from it as well.

[forest_blight]

I agree with stercox that BP must have gotten the word "casque" from the salt cellar sign in the FOY park. The real definition of "casque" is a helmet - the kind that goes with a suit of armor. Only in FOY and in The Secret - and nowhere else - has the word casque been used to describe a container. BP must have simply assumed that's what it meant, and adopted it for his hunt. His use of the word "casque" in this way provides yet more evidence (as if we needed any) that this one is buried in the FOY park.

I have a reprinting of a 1956 booklet from the Fountain of Youth with a drawing of the silver salt cellar. The caption reads: "Full size drawing of "Silver Casque" by Goold T. Butler, Civil Engineer. The original was five inches in height."

[stercox]

I agree with stercox that BP must have gotten the word "casque" from the salt cellar sign in the FOY park.

Actually that was Pine's idea--but I agree with both of you guys.  It is a fun, little connection.

[stercox]

Is there any chance we could obtain a transcript of the narrative that accompanies the Planetarium show? Clearly BP paid admission and watched it, drawing inspiration for a couple of lines. Maybe we could draw inspiration from it as well.

We might be able to get this from the owner--he actually has a great broadcasting voice and has done the voice overs for the programs in the planetarium and in the Discovery Globe.  We could check...

[2fast4u2c]

The real definition of "casque" is a helmet - the kind that goes with a suit of armor. Only in FOY and in The Secret - and nowhere else - has the word casque been used to describe a container.

"The Cask of Amontillado" (sometimes spelled "The Casque of Amontillado") is a short story, written by Edgar Allan Poe and first published in November 1846.  Refers to a container of wine if i remember correctly.  Haven't read it since high school.  Also, if you look up "casque" in some dictionaries, it says "see also cask" which is a container.

Now back to treasure hunting!!!

[regulus]

I just learned about that last semester, the cask IS a container of wine, and some dude leads Fortunado into the cellar and "buries" him alive in a brick wall. 

-regulus

[shecrab]

Montressor.

"For the Love of God, Montressor..." was popular graffiti on the bottom of any brick wall around our campus back in the 60's.



ck

[fox]

wow... I really need to get my internet back up and working....

another thing mentioned some time ago about our illusive white rock and palm tree is the very strange occurance of said rock being reflected but said tree not... 

[maltedfalcon]

Visited the FOY park on Saturday
Something that occured to me was men with compass rose could simply be men with directions.
or something simple as an information booth.

so you enter the park passing the 1st chapter sign
you pass directly by the information booth.
you come right up to a 5 foot tall green picket fence
You cant go to the right as that is the exit of the part
but you can go to the left...
you walk past the end of the fence
and come to a sign that says peacock nesting - no tresspassing...
but looking back there is a large storage area outside of the park proper...
I looked for a large tree from where I stood-but almost all the trees are the same size
but looking at it on google earth there is a barn-storage bldg to the left out of site of where I was standing
and directly south o that in the treeline is a large tree
which would actually be directly in line with the end ofthe green picket fence.

I suspect you guys have nailed this one down.  Its a matter of going in at night like BP did
or asking nicely for permisson.  (the important piece being its not inside the park grounds....)

When I get a chance I will post a google earth picture of exactly where I think it is.  I had to leave soon after getting there
I hope there is someone more local who can jump on this...
Maltedfalcon

[Trohn]

The lines concerning the stars moving by day and
sails moving at night almost confirm that you must
walk past the discovery globe and the planetarium.

I do believe that the last lines
'like moonlight in tear drops' indicates that you
are staring at the outer wall with the thousands
of embedded sea shells.

This wall is indeed 'over the tall grass'

Despite the explanation of underground electrical lines,
I think (along with the image showing the jewel
embedded in a rock) somewhere along the outer wall
(behind the green fence) is the proper spot.

Malted-

        Know that someone has a good relationship with the FOY owners
and all are interested in unearthing this one.