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I still hold out hope that someday we will all learn if JM taught you everything you know or the reverse is true.

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if JM taught you everything you know or the reverse is true.

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Found a wonderful article in the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer Magazine from Dec. 19, 1982. Lots of good information here. The image quality is terrible; I'm working on finding a full-color scan or original. If I do, I'll be back to update this. Enjoy!

Viewable at either of these locations:

http://kspot.org/trove/news.clippings/plain.dealer.121982.pdf
https://12treasures.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/plain.dealer.121982.pdf

Does anyone wonder why the Cleveland Plain Dealer? In my entire life I have read two article from this paper and both have to do with the secret

Never heard of it before. but there was a casque in Cleveland

Byron also did an interview with Chicago Tribune on 11/16/82

He also did interviews for St Louis Dispatch 10/25/82. and he told Johann he was right about St Louis.

[four21thrasher]

This is starting to feel a lot like Fyre Festival.

To be fair, you haven't seen reality yet. Not to mention, the Rule that founded my festival is much more reliable.

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words.

Well, the second was self explanatory. The first I imagine was because the books artist was a local.

There were other articles as well, in other places. Just not as big as this one.

[Doghousereiley]

and he told Johann he was right about St Louis.

He responded to Johann, You are right about St Louis but not about the location. Johann refused to share the email that Byron responded to. Given that info there are a couple of viable scenarios here.

Johann told me on the phone in may of 2019 that he sent Byron Priess an email with a St Louis solution to specific dig spot in Tower park. He remember it was near the Shakespeare statue.

Johann said that only received one email from Byron Priess

What are the viable scenarios?

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What are the viable scenarios?

Dear Byron,
St. Louis is a beautiful city, I believe the casque is buried in tower park.
Love,
Johann

To be honest, his unwillingness to share the context of the email speaks volumes about how much stock should be put into St Louis.

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What are the viable scenarios?

Dear Byron,
St. Louis is a beautiful city, I believe the casque is buried in tower park.
Love,
Johann

To be honest, his unwillingness to share the context of the email speaks volumes about how much stock should be put into St Louis.

Yeah basically. but add next to Shakespeare statue and remove the commentary about a beautiful city

Did Johann say he was unwilling to share with you? The post I read on Q4T he offered to send to anyone who wanted to see it. Brian Zinn and Fox even responded to that post. Thread image 10 date May11, 2004


Re: image 10
Postby johann » Tue May 11, 2004 7:15 pm

This pic is one of my candidates for St. Louis. Byron Preiss told me in an e-mail, after I submitted a very impressive and wrong solution, that there is a St. Louis treasure. I kept the e-mail and can send it to anyone who gives me an e-mail address. (I am bad with computers and do not know how to post the e-mail here.)


If you search Johanns posts (which I have up right now) you will see many times he relates the question he sent to Byron and the response. Johann seems to be the first one to hypothesize St Louis Cathedral in New Orleans

He does not seem unwilling or confused about what Byron wrote. He does debate the meaning. as do we all.


So I am confused. are you making a joke? I dont see how Johann was unwilling to share at all. HE WAS ONE WHO FOUND CLEVELAND CASQUE SITE. with Sooner Fan too



Re: image 4
Postby johann » Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:58 am

I am currently negotiating with my wife about getting to Cleveland. She does have a digital camera, and that also may take some negotiation. I'm going to do what I can.

I am still curious about that branches in the lower left of the picture, or any other little details.

--Johann

Brian Zinn just got to the spot first. Per Cleveland Plain Dealer article with Brian Zinn

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I get he found Cleveland, but he has, as far as i know, not shared with anyone the email he sent byron. He only shared the email byron sent him in return.

Did he tell byron "st Louis is beautiful, here's my dig spot" to which byron essentially replied: "your right it is a beautiful city, but the casque isnt there"

We will never know that, because we cant put the email in context.

There are a few things that kind of support st Louis, but until we get context, this isnt one of them.

I also understand Johann was well respected and generally open and honest, but this is a big thing, and his unwillingness to share the first email puts an unessecery shadow over the response.

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I get he found Cleveland, but he has, as far as i know, not shared with anyone the email he sent byron. He only shared the email byron sent him in return.

Did he tell byron "st Louis is beautiful, here's my dig spot" to which byron essentially replied: "your right it is a beautiful city, but the casque isnt there"

We will never know that, because we cant put the email in context.

There are a few things that kind of support st Louis, but until we get context, this isnt one of them.

I also understand Johann was well respected and generally open and honest, but this is a big thing, and his unwillingness to share the first email puts an unessecery shadow over the response.

Johann shared with me exactly what he wrote to Byron Priess. I am sure he would share it with you Did you ask him?

He doesn't have the original email. I get it. I dont have any emails from 2003 either. or any from before 2014 or so He moved jobs/servers as a professor he now has a new .edu address

I dont get how Johann is accused of unwilling to share. Search his 477 posts and he is sharing info with anyone while he was active.

You dont have to accept the facts Byron said. and you dont have to believe me about what Johann told me the email said. But it is the truth. Ignoring the facts doesn't make them go away and make them untrue.

and if you repeat untruths that doesn't make them anymore correct.

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[quote="burnstyle"]I get he found Cleveland, but he has, as far as i know, not shared with anyone the email he sent byron. He only shared the email byron sent him in return.

Did he tell byron "st Louis is beautiful, here's my dig spot" to which byron essentially replied: "your right it is a beautiful city, but the casque isnt there"

We will never know that, because we cant put the email in context.

Ask the new Facebook moderator Forest Blight. He got a copy of the email and he asked about the spelling. Does Preacher still have a copy?

Please read these post before accusing someone of willing suppressing information. Ignore the facts if you want

Read the posts by Johann

Re: verse 2
Postby johann » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:26 pm

I extensively explored Tower Grove Park years ago. In fact, it was my solution that I emailed to BP. He said I was correct in thinking St. Louis, but I had the wrong location. Did he mean the wrong park or the wrong spot in Tower Grove Park? I don't know.
I never counted the stones in the mock ruins, but perhaps I should try that.
I used to live down the street from the park and would go there often.


Re: image 9
Postby johann » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:04 pm

I would kine to find a legeater here in St. Louis. My first theory (which BP rejected) was at the Shakespeare statue in Tower Grove Park.


THIS IS RESPONSE TO FOREST BLIGHT who appears to have received a copy of the email

Re: General Questions
Postby forest_blight » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:14 pm

Two questions:

1. Is this a copy and paste of the original, misspellings and all?
2. What was the "location" in question (so we can rule it out)?
"...it may well be doubted whether human ingenuity can construct an enigma of the kind which human ingenuity may not, by proper application, resolve." Image

Re: General Questions
Postby johann » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:29 pm

Yes, that is how the email from BP appeared. It was obviously some time ago.
I would love to have us work hard on the St. Louis idea. Honestly, I am stumped on St. Louis. I originally thought it was in Tower Grove Park on Grand Blvd. in South St. Louis. I pinpointed an exact patch of ground. So, when BP told me it was not the correct location, did he mean not that patch of Tower Grove Park or not Tower Grove Park at all? I don't know. I have worked much on a Forest Park theory, as outlined in a couple pic and verse threads, but my digging has turned up naught but dirt. Alas.

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So just to be clear there more than 3 posts where Johann say he emailed Byron Priess an exact spot near the Shakespeare statue in Tower Grove Park

You have seen the response

What are you exactly unsure about what the email said?

What are the viable scenarios for ...

MR Priess.
I think a casque is buried in St Louis Tower Park by the Shakespeare statute

Just as Johann states in his Q4T posts

The reply
"Very impressive work esp since the book is 20 years old. I think you deserve to know that you are correct about st. Louid,but not correct about the location.thanks for all your excellent work."


Twist it how you want

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words.

Well, the second was self explanatory. The first I imagine was because the books artist was a local.

There were other articles as well, in other places. Just not as big as this one.

Others beside St Louis and Chicago?

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This is starting to feel a lot like Fyre Festival.

To be fair, you haven't seen reality yet. Not to mention, the Rule that founded my festival is much more reliable.

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