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[Choice]

Then there's St Mary's Square with the statue of Sun Yat-sen and Portsmouth Square first school of California (education) monument.

[TreasureBloke]

I know that Goldengate was a person who was alive and cogniscent around SanFran back in the early eighties are there any other people who can identify if a bit of GGP has changed over time? Google earth isn't helping as it's murky in that part. Or perhaps I can somehow get in touch with goldengate. I could ask the park services too I guess but I don't want to immediately bother them with questions as they may already get a bunch of them.

[Rviewer1]

I know that Goldengate was a person who was alive and cogniscent around SanFran back in the early eighties are there any other people who can identify if a bit of GGP has changed over time? Google earth isn't helping as it's murky in that part. Or perhaps I can somehow get in touch with goldengate. I could ask the park services too I guess but I don't want to immediately bother them with questions as they may already get a bunch of them.

I haven’t seen Goldengate around for months. I think the only thing that wood bring him back would be Josh Cornel posting again. What part GGP are you looking at?

[TreasureBloke]

I know that Goldengate was a person who was alive and cogniscent around SanFran back in the early eighties are there any other people who can identify if a bit of GGP has changed over time? Google earth isn't helping as it's murky in that part. Or perhaps I can somehow get in touch with goldengate. I could ask the park services too I guess but I don't want to immediately bother them with questions as they may already get a bunch of them.

I haven’t seen Goldengate around for months. I think the only thing that wood bring him back would be Josh Cornel posting again. What part GGP are you looking at?

Goldengate left after all the drama according to another thread.

North bit of the botanical gardens. Trying to fit verse phraseology and image.

[Choice]

GoGa left and took all his posts with him. The horseshoe pits has been explored and dug in that area before and during remodeling. I posted a few images way back when.
Always come to the 1st question that should be answered; What is the Chinese immigration connection?

[TreasureBloke]

GoGa left and took all his posts with him. The horseshoe pits has been explored and dug in that area before and during remodeling. I posted a few images way back when.
Always come to the 1st question that should be answered; What is the Chinese immigration connection?

Not looking to dig there. Here is the stretview link. It's image matching.
Is it a newer feature?

The circle was there in the past but google earth goes to 1987 and is murky.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7686108 ... 704!8i4352

[Choice]

Bbi, here are some characteristics in a location you are looking for:

Dragon, step/stones, 'strawberry', rebus. Check out Koi Tower!

[bbi]

I’ll check that out Choice. I Appreciate that information, thanks. Do you have a link to that particular layout above?

[Choice]

This is a remodeling plan Spiritr posted when we were contemplating Coit as the area of interest. He didn't post the date of the proposal. Here's the original posted image.
https://imgur.com/a/MXS3nnI

[Choice]

Anyone played the original Dungeons & Dragons in the early 80s? Did it include the 'Elven moon goddess"?

[Dominick]

No. She did not appear until 4th edition in 2008.

[Choice]

Sehanine Moonbow came out much later. However the original 1980 Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, Deities & Demigods contained 17 pantheons of gods:

American Indian mythos
Arthurian heroes
Babylonian mythos
Celtic mythos
Central American mythos (i.e. Aztec and Maya)
Chinese mythos
Cthulhu Mythos (from H. P. Lovecraft and related fiction)
Egyptian mythos
Elric mythos (from Michael Moorcock's Elric novels)
Finnish mythos
Greek mythos and heroes
Indian mythos
Japanese mythos
Nehwon mythos (from Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar novels)
Nonhuman's Deities (original TSR creations)
Norse mythos
Sumerian mythos

So Artemis in Greek or Chang-o in Chinese mythology may've been mentioned. Who knows, maybe BP used D&D model to build his puzzles. Afterall the book was supposed to be aimed for teens and nerds! There are some similarity in style of the pages.

https://imgur.com/a/68VdMHE
https://imgur.com/a/MYIH1dc
https://imgur.com/a/09IddAJ
https://imgur.com/a/x7h0yGQ

[XeroDM]

Another possibility for the checkered cuffs are that they represent the inner stone walls of the music concourse . The curl in the flower stem represents the arms of the benches. The clock on the pedestal ( now this might be a stretch) represents the sundial on the pedestal in Shakespeares’ garden. Who knows how many things have changed since 1980

A blast from the past, I know, but has anyone investigated the sundial in Shakespeare's Garden and dug near it? I am having a resurgence in the idea that it could be there. I have been researching the Garden and its configuration from before the 1991 renovation, and wondering if anyone else has done the same and wants to share ideas?

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[Dominick]

I always go back to Shakespeare's Garden. It just feels right when you are standing in that place. I have never been able to fit the verse in an understandable way. The "Giant pole" line do not seem to fit anything in the garden except maybe a tree. The bust of Shakespeare could be the "object of Twain's attention." I would love to hear what you have found out about the garden before 1991.

[XeroDM]

I always go back to Shakespeare's Garden. It just feels right when you are standing in that place. I have never been able to fit the verse in an understandable way. The "Giant pole" line do not seem to fit anything in the garden except maybe a tree. The bust of Shakespeare could be the "object of Twain's attention." I would love to hear what you have found out about the garden before 1991.

Basically, the entry and paved areas were part of a 1991 renovation. So, the G h being part of Shakespeare's Garden is not a legitimate reading of the clue. It wasn't there in 1980 when BP buried casques. Part of the renovation was to move the sundial, so if people have been bouncing off the current location of the sundial, then that's not a correct assumption either. When the quake levelled the adjacent buildings (Academy of Science), they were rebuilt, including an underground carpark and refit of the Music Concourse, and that rebuild took a small section off the North Eastern corner of the garden. From a quick re-construct via some bad imagery, I don't think the grassed areas were changed, but some trees along that edge may have been removed or effected. It was around this area that the sundial could have been originally placed. There are photos out there from about 15 years prior to casque burials that show something very much like the pedestal. The sundial also had a small winged gnomon on top that cast the shadow. That's no longer there, but was a recent vandalism/ degredation issue. Plenty of photos of what it looked like.
Sadly, reconstructing the area around the original sundial location would be impossible. It is possible that something in the area could have had a telling symbol on it which could quite likely have been lost with the renovation and rebuild.
I can get to Shakespeare's Garden really easily on what I think is a good, straightforwards path (I believe this is a path puzzle, not a location one), but am stumped a little at the end. I need a little time on ground (or eyes on ground) to explore a few directional ideas from the original sundial position, but that end of my idea is honestly pretty weak...