image 12

[The_Duck]

Me too - just not a lot of traffic lately  - it comes in fits and spurts.

[keylime]

thought everyone gave up

[wilhouse]

be assured guys that we have not given up.

sometimes for me real life intrudes and we have to lay low for a while.

wilhouse

[dan39decoy]

I am very new to this hunt, and thought I'd start with Image 12 because I live in New York.  I apologize if this idea has been thrown out and rejected before, but I noticed that only this and image 1 have the domed shape on the top.  At least insofar as image 12 is concerned, I think this might indicate a bridge.  If you look at the Verranzano bridge, the cut out portion of the bridge support is exactly the same shape as image 12.  If there is some significance to this, it could suggest that the casque is buried either in Staten Island or Brooklyn (the boroughs at the opposite ends of the bridge).  Don't know if this is helpful at all, but thought I'd mention it.

If it hasn't already been pointed out Verse 5 starts out with "Lane Two twenty two" and could be (among other things) Lane 2, 22 or Lane B, V -- Verranzano Bridge.

Somewhat of a reach?...probably.

[dan39decoy]

Here is a picture of the bridge support in question:

http://www.nyc-photo-gallery.com/Verrazano_02.htm

[JRock]

Hey guys - I'm Siskel's cousin, new to the game.  I'm casing a potential dig site this weekend, somewhere in NYC.  Stay tuned.

[KROMAGNUM]

Great JRock!
I live in Cresskill and I can bring a shovel,my book and help you dig.
I have a car. I am minutes from the GWB.

[Pine_Tree]

Out of curiosity, where did the name "JRock" come from?

Pine Tree

[JRock]

Long story about the nickname - but I am in a rock band, if that helps (www.thehandful.com).

FYI - Siskel & Egbert don't think my site is accurate, and they may be right - but then again, they may be wrong - I do have a backup though, possibly.

[maltedfalcon]

ach! woudn't you know it, This saturday I will be in Meadow Vista, CA... come to think of it most saturdays I'm in Meadow Vista--- oh well good luck! love to hear your ideas even if we can't help hunt we can enjoy vicariously.

[johann]

When the pic is turned sideways-clockwise, the water appears to spell out an elongated N (dark water) A (light water) and then what could be an O (or I?).  Can anyone else see this?  Also, when the pic is rightside up, there are some crossed lines in the water that look like some kind of crossing highway/road.

[Siskel]

Yet another thought ...

Back on August 24th I posted about Egbert and my trip to Ellis Island and the lower east side of Manhattan.  I spoke to the theory that verse 10 might be coupled with image 12 as has been bandied about before.  Specifically I remember commenting on Eg's thought that verse 10's language regarding "the Natives still speak of him of Hard word in three vols." might be referring to Charles Dickens, author of Hard Times originally published in three vols.  Still, I was having trouble finding how Dickens could relate to image 12.

Recently my cousin JRock (new to the board) pointed out to me the later reference in verse 10 that speaks of something being "passed the hour OR MORE" and how that very language was often used by Dickens in his writings - a google search of this term and Dickens shows he made use of this somewhat odd phrasing in a number of his works including Great Expectations and Oliver Twist.  Still figuring out Dickens part in all of this is difficult.  For thoughts on this you might start with the following:

http://www.fidnet.com/~dap1955/dickens/america.html

has some good info on Chuck.  Charts his 1842 visit to the states which had him travel as far west as St. Louis, before turning back north and east toward Canada.  Perhaps most interesting, I think, is his trip to Niagara Falls.  I have long thought that the water pictured in image 12 seems to resemble a water fall (especially the way the waves are cresting on the bottom right-hand portion of the illustration).  If image 12 goes with verse 10, the Dickens reference might be leading to Niagara Falls.  Reason I say this is that his description of the falls in his letters (also can be found on the right side of the above-referenced site under heading "Dickens' letters to John Forster from America-1842 - visiting Niagara Falls") is a very famous passage in that it was apparently the one place in the US that Dickens thought to be remarkably beautiful.  SO much so that when you go to a site on Niagara Falls

http://www.niagarafallsstatepark.com

you can go to the "Discover the Falls - Amazing Facts and Figures" section and pictured in the upper right hand corner is an illustration of - you guessed it - Charles Dickens.  Seems Niagara Tourism uses Dickens' description of the falls to this day as one of the great passages ever written about the National Park.  While Dickens seems to have other connections to NY and the lower east side/Bowery area, I don't see any other stronger connection why the "Natives [New Yorkers - thanks Eg] would still be speaking of him of Hard word" except to echo his passionate descriptive terms to promote the National State Park at Niagara.

Thus, I wonder if image 12 with the face of the Lady Liberty could actually be referring to the New York State side of Niagara Falls?? and not the lower east side of Manhattan/NYC.

[The_Duck]

I think it would now be a good time to go back and review my post in State Maps and shapes in Pics - or the Canadian connection. The Niagara link is apparent (in my mind at least) and the clues are almost overpowering.

[Siskel]

to The_Duck.

Sorry if I inadvertantly stepped on your toes on the Niagara Falls theory.  Don't know how I missed that posting.  Regardless, not trying to take credit for the find.  Merely offering additional info that I think might be leading to the Falls, and tying a verse to the image.  Still can't figure out whether it would be the NY State side (which would explain Lady Liberty's face) or the Canadian side as you seemed to suggest in your previous post.  And still troubling is the fact that if it is the Falls (and I liked your Maiden in the Mist thoughts by the way) I am still puzzled by how the rest of the image relates.

[johann]

It is true that one of the casques is supposed to be a short distance over the border into Canada.